Talk about stupid = talk about Council decisions.
I’ve just read over on the mighty Wellington Scoop that WCC has voted to raise the height on areas north of Courtenay Place, in order to satisfy some developer’s fantasy to build more than they are allowed to. This is wrong on so many levels.
For a start, the developer has been pushing the boundaries for so long that they are starting to rival Donal Rump in his ability to lie and to bullshit. I quote here from Felicity Wong’s article on Scoop:
Politicians are ready to change the rules, by regulation, to help a private development at 260 Wakefield Street, (the old Commonsense Organics site). Mayor Little and Deputy Mayor McNulty wrote to (Cities Tsar) Chris Bishop a month or so ago, asking him to change the height limits inside the Courtenay Place Heritage Area (CPHA). David Loveridge’s Watson Group’s high-density “Lido” project of 117 apartments could then proceed, without its effects on nearby heritage being considered.
The CPHA is zoned medium density, or 21m (7 storeys).
Mr Loveridge’s site has already successfully received several Council resource consents to build higher – first from 21m as zoned (6 storey medium density) to 24m (7-8 storeys), then to 30.5m and then to 32m (9-10 storeys). He is now seeking another consent for the site in order to go even higher – to 12 storeys (37.6m). The matter is now before an independent commissioner who will hold a hearing on 25 August. Council planners have recommended against its approval.
In a Kafka-like move, Mr Loveridge calls each of his extra 4 storeys as “level 7”. There is the usual level 7 (actually the 8th storey including ground level), plus a double-height “level 7A” (storeys 9 & 10), and another double-height “level 7B” (storeys 11 & 12).
On TVNZ1 last week Deputy Mayor Ben McNulty stood by the vacant lot saying that “the developer needs to go 7 levels to make it work”. He failed to mention that 5 storeys of the proposed 12 storey building are each named a variant of “level 7”.
I don’t know who Mr Loveridge is, or who he thinks he is, but having four floors of extra height all marketed as “Level 7” is just bullshit, plain and simple, and Loveridge should be poured back into his bottle with a firmly smacked bottom. He’s a young dude with plenty of fight in him, having appeared at events with the Mayor and other dignatories, but this is just silly. Here’s what he wants to do:

That building peeking out of the top of the existing buildings is what he is after. So, I hear some of you ask, “What is wrong with that?” Others of you, I hear even more loudly, are saying “Jesus – what the fuck is that and who in their right mind would want to live there?” and to you I say many things, very few of them printable.
Yes, I know that it is only a concept sketch and therefore not the finished thing, but it is truly as ugly as a 1990s heat pump and probably a lot less efficient. I mean, what sort of architect worth their salt would let an image as ugly as that out into the world?
Here it is with that bloody wire removed and the sky made looking like it occasionally shines in NZ. Oh, and I removed the building as well. Isn’t that nicer?

OK – so here it is with the building back. Still ugly though. So much beige in the world. Boring!

And so here it is with a better colour scheme – well, maybe not better, just different, but it is worth thinking about, no?

But the real crime here is not how stupid / boring / ugly the building is – and it certainly is ALL those things – its like a stack of cages for laboratory rats, but without any of the pedigree and they’re all smoking cigarettes to test vaccines for cancer. The real problem is letting some dickhead developer build 4 extra floors all called level 7 and blocking out sunshine on the nearby streets.
Yes, indeed, that is where I am going – why compromise the city for a piece of architecture as shit as this? Why not just say no to crap that spoils the city and contributes nothing back to it? Courtenay Place, along with Blair and Allen St, when the going is good, are magical. Not right now with all the scum on the footpath in every doorway, but in the early 2000s Blair and Allen were the bizz ! Heritage buildings, great restaurants, sunny by day and vibrant by night, but squeezing in a contender for the world’s shittiest development just because they want to crap all over the population – don’t do it Wellington, it is just not worth it.
Wellington has spent the last 3-5 years working on the height limits for the city, and now you want the Council to roll over and play meek and mild just because a local Dick wants to lord it over the city? Don’t be a Dick. Refuse this building.



I’m reminded of the 1980s Wakefield Central proposal by the infamous Chase Corp:
https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/readings-courtenay-redevelopment-mixed-use-proposed.1623109/page-6?post_id=191580076#post-191580076
That was an absolute shocker – mind you, virtually anything by Chase was a shocker. Thank God that never got built.
The 1987 Crash merely exposed the clay foundations that Chase Corp was built on. Many of its buildings didn’t survive the 2016 Kaikoura quakes, namely the Readings parking building and the former GWRC building on Wakefield St.
What I find amazing is that the Council are appealing to Bishop to override the Council’s own rules (which as you say, they have spent the last 3 years ( although it seems like forever) putting together in its new District plan.. Although TBH in the current market this isn’t going to get built,
We’ve still got Mayfair up on Mt VIc which was promised to start in “early 2026” after it got its resource consent,
+ we’ve got the council subsidising conversions of C grade towers into Apartments that they are having trouble renting, (they are currently just getting by because they’ve done a deal to rehouse community housing tenants during the $500 million upgrade the council is paying for)
Then there is the Heritage things… The regional council are busy buying bendy buses (because the Karori tunnel is to small) and now we’ve got he council begging Bishop to allow them to take away its heritage status, because “we want double deckers”…
All of these “heritage” items happpened because of a council process, and now they don’t like the results ,
Its all gone to H%ll…
Council has decimated its Heritage department along with its Urban department, so there is very few people in either. Some things should just be left to common sense (assuming that someone has common sense, which may be over stating things). So, in order to be the grown up in the room, I hereby declare the following bleeding obvious:
Karori Tunnel is not Heritage and should be widened / heightened / made more sensible. End of story, although the bigger question is, how you gonna do that and keep it working 24 hours a day? Because there is no other means of access for K town.
Oil Tanks at Miramar – not heritage. Take a photo and pull the fuckers down. End of story.
Defence Buildings at Pukeahu – obviously yes they are heritage, but there is not need to pull them down. Find a use for them, or propose an alternative use for te site. Don’t pull it down just for the sake of it. They’re not hurting anyone by staying put. These decisions are easy to make by someone sensible.
Nemo for Town Clerk !
What’s up Fish? Just a few weeks ago you wrote that “what we really don’t need is more Low density in the centre of Wellington”, and now you take a sudden pivot to opposing this much needed high density housing in the centre of Wellington? I don’t care that it’s ugly, hopefully that will help push the rent down to be slightly less unaffordable, although I worry that’s optimistic.
Fair comment – what I am objecting to here is the developer plainly being a bit of a wanker, claiming that there are four floors all called Level 7. That is just being a Dick. There is no need for that sort of stupid behaviour.
But then I got interested and had a closer look, found the developer website, and realised that there are much bigger problems. I’ll do another post on that later – there is a mountain of info to read, as it went to a Council hearing. I’m not sure what the result of that hearing is, as yet – apparently it should have been resolved last week, but I am not sure what the decision is / was / will be.
Will this development make housing slightly less unaffordable? I sincerely doubt it.
Will this development be high quality, high density living? Maybe.
Is it suitable for people who never want to see the light of day again? Probably.
It’d be a reasonable site for a tiny wee park. G*d knows the city needs more open space & green space.
Too close to Waitangi Park for it to be of any use.
Nah.
No more than Denton Park suffers from being close to Civic Square.
Gather your rosebuds whilst ye may.
Actually, I’m being hippo critical in saying that the building is boring because of its colour – the whole damn street looks boringly beige and grey from that photo ! No one would really ever think that this is one of the most vibrant streets in the capital !
Here’s my solution: *also* redevelop the buildings on this street to something taller, and then you can no longer see that apartment block in the background (I think that is Allen Street despite what the original caption said).
Seriously though we should be able to build that kind of buildings in a city centre, and have it be a completely inoffensive and uncontroversial thing. We are much richer than 100 years ago, and have much more industrial mass production capacity. We should easily be able to produce new buildings that don’t look worse than the old ones.
The 7, 7A and 7B storey is so weird, did the council adopt a maximum number of storeys instead of a form based code or what happened there?