The Eye of the Fish

Leviathan
March 1, 2020

My Corona

(Sing along to the Knack, you know you want to… All together now!)

Ooo my little prickly one, prickly one
are you gonna get me this time Corona
ohh you make my noses run, my noses run,
gunge it coming off of the line Corona

Never gonna stop, give it up, such a dirty time
Always gets to me, with a touch of the viral kind
My My My Corona

Come a little closer huh in a chunk
Close enough to get in my eyes Corona
It’s all a little mystery to me
Running down the length of my thigh Corona

Never gonna stop, give it up, such a deadly one
Always get stuffed up, its the touch of the viral kind
My My My Corona

When you gonna get to me, get to me
Is it just a matter of time Corona?
Here’s a trip to quarantine, to quarantine
Or is it just a game in my mind Corona?

Never gonna stop, give it up, such a disease time
Always get sick from the touch of the viral kind My My My Corona

oooooooo My Corona

Alan
2 - 03 - 20

Very droll. It’s the end of the world as we know it.

Levi
2 - 03 - 20

Well, I feel fine. Thanks!

Satoshi Nakamoto
2 - 03 - 20

I had to check the original lyrics to find out what you had changed – original lyrics quite dodgy it seems! Your revised lyrics fit alarmingly well with the virus it seems. Particularly the line “Close enough to get in my eyes Corona” – well done but surely a little too close to the truth to be funny!

starkive
2 - 03 - 20

Baby You Can Catch My SARS?

Levi
2 - 03 - 20

We are all made of Sars…

Phil
2 - 03 - 20

And of course, in the dumb shit-for-brains states in the USA, people are thinking this has something to do with that Mexican beer…. – it must be that dodgy lime slice!

starkive
2 - 03 - 20

At least, when I gave up on European cars and bought a Japanese one it was a Corolla, not a Corona.

Levi
2 - 03 - 20

Starkive – Do you remember the old Toyota advert from the 1970s? Showing off the marvels of the latest Japanese models: …Corolla, Corona, Crown! I seem to recall seeing only one or two Crowns in my life in NZ, but when I went to Hong Kong, I found them all. Standard taxicab = Toyota Crown. Never knew anyone who ever bought a Corona. Maybe a Torana, but not a Corona…

starkive
2 - 03 - 20

I believe all those model names are derived from varieties of cigar – maybe not such shrewd marketing today. On the hother hand Toyota are still happily making and selling the Ractis, the Belta and of course the Levin…

Seamonkey Madness
3 - 03 - 20

My parents had a Toyota Corona, back in the mid-to-late eighties. The cream paint job contrasted wonderfully with the multiple rust spots.

Actual Warning Info
7 - 03 - 20

The WHO sent 25 international experts to China and here are their main findings after 9 days
WHO
The WHO has sent a team of international experts to China to investigate the situation, including Clifford Lane, Clinical Director at the US National Institutes of Health. Here is the press conference on Youtube and the final report of the commission as PDF after they visited Beijing, Wuhan, Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Chengdu. Here are some interesting facts about Covid that I have not yet read in the media:
When a cluster of several infected people occurred in China, it was most often (78-85%) caused by an infection within the family by droplets and other carriers of infection in close contact with an infected person. Transmission by fine aerosols in the air over long distances is not one of the main causes of spread. Most of the 2,055 infected hospital workers were either infected at home or in the early phase of the outbreak in Wuhan when hospital safeguards were not raised yet.
5% of people who are diagnosed with Covid require artificial respiration. Another 15% need to breathe in highly concentrated oxygen – and not just for a few days. The duration from the beginning of the disease until recovery is 3 to 6 weeks on average for these severe and critical patients (compared to only 2 weeks for the mildly ill). The mass and duration of the treatments overburdened the existing health care system in Wuhan many times over. The province of Hubei, whose capital is Wuhan, had 65,596 infected persons so far. A total of 40,000 employees were sent to Hubei from other provinces to help fight the epidemic. 45 hospitals in Wuhan are caring for Covid patients, 6 of which are for patients in critical condition and 39 are caring for seriously ill patients and for infected people over the age of 65. Two makeshift hospitals with 2,600 beds were built within a short time. 80% of the infected have mild disease, ten temporary hospitals were set up in gymnasiums and exhibition halls for those.
China can now produce 1.6 million test kits for the novel coronavirus per week. The test delivers a result on the same day. Across the country, anyone who goes to the doctor with a fever is screened for the virus: In Guangdong province, far from Wuhan, 320,000 people have been tested, and 0.14% of those were positive for the virus.
The vast majority of those infected sooner or later develop symptoms. Cases of people in whom the virus has been detected and who do not have symptoms at that time are rare – and most of them fall ill in the next few days.
The most common symptoms are fever (88%) and dry cough (68%). Exhaustion (38%), expectoration of mucus when coughing (33%), shortness of breath (18%), sore throat (14%), headaches (14%), muscle aches (14%), chills (11%) are also common. Less frequent are nausea and vomiting (5%), stuffy nose (5%) and diarrhoea (4%). Running nose is not a symptom of Covid.
An examination of 44,672 infected people in China showed a fatality rate of 3.4%. Fatality is strongly influenced by age, pre-existing conditions, gender, and especially the response of the health care system. All fatality figures reflect the state of affairs in China up to 17 February, and everything could be quite different in the future elsewhere.
Healthcare system: 20% of infected people in China needed hospital treatment for weeks. China has hospital beds to treat 0.4% of the population at the same time – other developed countries have between 0.1% and 1.3% and most of these beds are already occupied with people who have other diseases. The fatality rate was 5.8% in Wuhan but 0.7% in other areas of China, which China explained with the lack of critical care beds in Wuhan. In order to keep the fatality rate low like outside of Wuhan, other countries have to aggressively contain the spread of the virus in order to keep the number of seriously ill Covid patients low and secondly increase the number of critical care beds until there is enough for the seriously ill. China also tested various treatment methods for the unknown disease and the most successful ones were implemented nationwide. Thanks to this response, the fatality rate in China is now lower than a month ago.
Pre-existing conditions: The fatality rate for those infected with pre-existing cardiovascular disease in China was 13.2%. It was 9.2% for those infected with high blood sugar levels (uncontrolled diabetes), 8.4% for high blood pressure, 8% for chronic respiratory diseases and 7.6% for cancer. Infected persons without a relevant previous illness died in 1.4% of cases.
Gender: Women catch the disease just as often as men. But only 2.8% of Chinese women who were infected died from the disease, while 4.7% of the infected men died. The disease appears to be not more severe in pregnant women than in others. In 9 examined births of infected women, the children were born by caesarean section and healthy without being infected themselves. The women were infected in the last trimester of pregnancy. What effect an infection in the first or second trimester has on embryos is currently unclear as these children are still unborn.
Age: The younger you are, the less likely you are to be infected and the less likely you are to fall seriously ill if you do get infected:
Age % of population % of infected Fatality
0-9 12.0% 0,9% 0 as of now
10-19 11.6% 1.2% 0.2%
20-29 13.5% 8.1% 0.2%
30-39 15.6% 17.0% 0.2%
40-49 15.6% 19.2% 0.4%
50-59 15.0% 22.4% 1.3%
60-69 10.4% 19.2% 3.6%
70-79 4.7% 8.8% 8.0%
80+ 1.8% 3.2% 14.8%
Read: Out of all people who live in China, 13.5% are between 20 and 29 years old. Out of those who were infected in China, 8.1% were in this age group (this does not mean that 8.1% of people between 20 and 29 become infected). This means that the likelihood of someone at this age to catch the infection is somewhat lower compared to the average. And of those who caught the infection in this age group, 0.2% died.
Your likelihood to die: Some people who are in an age group read the fatality rate and think this is their personal likelihood that they will if they get infected. No, because all the other risk factors also apply. Men in this that age group will more likely die than women, people with preexisting conditions more than healthy people, and people in overcrowded hospitals more than those in hospitals where they get the care they need.
The new virus is genetically 96% identical to a known coronavirus in bats and 86-92% identical to a coronavirus in pangolin. Therefore, the transmission of a mutated virus from animals to humans is the most likely cause of the appearance of the new virus.
Since the end of January, the number of new coronavirus diagnoses in China has been steadily declining (shown here as a graph) with now only 329 new diagnoses within the last day – one month ago it was around 3,000 a day. “This decline in COVID-19 cases across China is real,” the report says. The authors conclude this from their own experience on site, declining hospital visits in the affected regions, the increasing number of unoccupied hospital beds, and the problems of Chinese scientists to recruit enough newly infected for the clinical studies of the numerous drug trials. Here is the relevant part of the press conference about the decline assessment.
One of the important reasons for containing the outbreak is that China is interviewing all infected people nationwide about their contact persons and then tests those. There are 1,800 teams in Wuhan to do this, each with at least 5 people. But the effort outside of Wuhan is also big. In Shenzhen, for example, the infected named 2,842 contact persons, all of whom were found, testing is now completed for 2,240, and 2.8% of those had contracted the virus. In Sichuan province, 25,493 contact persons were named, 25,347 (99%) were found, 23,178 have already been examined and 0.9% of them were infected. In the province of Guangdong, 9,939 contacts were named, all found, 7,765 are already examined and 4.8% of them were infected. That means: If you have direct personal contact with an infected person, the probability of infection is between 1% and 5%.
Finally, a few direct quotes from the report:
“China’s bold approach to contain the rapid spread of this new respiratory pathogen has changed the course of a rapidly escalating and deadly epidemic. In the face of a previously unknown virus, China has rolled out perhaps the most ambitious, agile and aggressive disease containment effort in history. China’s uncompromising and rigorous use of non-pharmaceutical measures to contain transmission of the COVID-19 virus in multiple settings provides vital lessons for the global response. This rather unique and unprecedented public health response in China reversed the escalating cases in both Hubei, where there has been widespread community transmission, and in the importation provinces, where family clusters appear to have driven the outbreak.”
“Much of the global community is not yet ready, in mindset and materially, to implement the measures that have been employed to contain COVID-19 in China. These are the only measures that are currently proven to interrupt or minimize transmission chains in humans. Fundamental to these measures is extremely proactive surveillance to immediately detect cases, very rapid diagnosis and immediate case isolation, rigorous tracking and quarantine of close contacts, and an exceptionally high degree of population understanding and acceptance of these measures.”
“COVID-19 is spreading with astonishing speed; COVID-19 outbreaks in any setting have very serious consequences; and there is now strong evidence that non-pharmaceutical interventions can reduce and even interrupt transmission. Concerningly, global and national preparedness planning is often ambivalent about such interventions. However, to reduce COVID-19 illness and death, near-term readiness planning must embrace the large-scale implementation of high-quality, non-pharmaceutical public health measures. These measures must fully incorporate immediate case detection and isolation, rigorous close contact tracing and monitoring/quarantine, and direct population/community engagement.”

60 MPa
14 - 03 - 20

China is running an aggressive PR campaign at the moment saying that they have worked hard to contain Covid 19 and assist others ie the Italians

Let it not be forgotten that they knew about this a lot longer than they let on and didn’t tell the rest of the world

starkive
15 - 03 - 20

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/the-independent-daily-cartoon-a8575981.html

Leviathan
17 - 03 - 20

But 60 – in hindsight, it certainly looks as though they had the better control over it than the West has had. Nothing quite like a totalitarian regime for forcing people to remain locked down and be obedient. It will be really interesting to see how the rest of us cope with that. Italy flouted those recommendations for too long, and went on kissing people on both cheeks while we went on with hongi and handshakes. But now? Thousands have died in Italy (all the old Nona and Popa) but so far, none in NZ. Just 8 identified infections, although presumably there are more, undetected.

I’m still wondering what it is that the Chinese know that we Europeans don’t know, in that where I am, every single Chinese person is wearing a mask, and none of the Euros are. Who is right and who is wrong?

60 MPa
20 - 03 - 20

https://www.freedomsafespace.com/m/videos/view/chinaweldingdoors

Be careful what you wish for

Leviathan
20 - 03 - 20

60 – what the hell are they doing that for? They’re not sealing people inside are they? I can’t figure it out.

60 MPa
20 - 03 - 20

Yes they are sealing people inside

The weld quality is largely symbolic, I could get through that with a 9 inch grinder in 40 seconds
Getting out of a Uighur work camp? not likely

When China authorities say a number, do NOT believe it- be it virus cases, live births, anything, don’t believe them

Leviathan
21 - 03 - 20

Well, as a rule, I don’t trust anything that politicians say at all – it’s their job, they’re literally paid to lie to the people. No one really wants to hear the truth. Although, I do trust Jacinda. Remember when she was elected, she was asked if she had ever lied? She said, straight to camera, “No, I have not ever and I do not see a possibility of when I would”. Soimon Bridges was asked the same, and his answer was more “Umm, errr, well” i.e. “Yes, i have lied and will continue to do so, it is my job as a National Party leader to lie at certain occasions”.

But no, i certainly don’t trust Chinese authorities! Such a dodgy country.