The Eye of the Fish

Maximus
June 9, 2009

State of Play

An update on where Eye of the Fish is, some 18 months after starting: We’ve posted 145 short articles, of which it has been good to have your feedback on. So much feedback in fact – we’ve just passed our 2000th comment on the blog (not including the 7053 spam intercepted), and that’s a pretty good response rate despite my sometimes random ranting.

That’s a fairly staggering average rate of about 13.8 comments per post – which actually makes this one of the most active architecture and design blogs in NZ.

Hooray for us.

And boo to the approx 48.6 spam per post also. No, I don’t need or want your pills or your online gambling, and I certainly don’t want to see pictures of Paris Hilton naked. The only place for a Hilton in Wellington is somewhere along the waterfront.

By comparison, for instance, Share Architecture in Auckland has had 275 posts (far more than us – they’re rather prolific), but only 299 comments so far, in about the same length of time. They also note they’ve had just over 101,000 hits on their site, which is also far less than we’ve had – about 5 times less. So: Wellingtonians like to both read more about Architecture, and comment more about it too. I think that means that they think more too. Keep up the good work in coming here – and keep up the commenting. We like your feedback – its good to have discussion on Urban matters. More coming soon.

i_am
9 - 06 - 09

Interesting stats. Keep up the good work!

mobsta
9 - 06 - 09

Maximus,
well done.
great stats.
it does show that we like to discuss architecture and urban matters here in Wellington.
I can’t believe that Auckland only averages 1 comment per post. That seems ludicrous….

Well done once again on a great blog site.

Maximus
9 - 06 - 09

Thanks. To be fair, I think that Share Architecture isn’t really aiming itself at getting comments and feedback. Most of their posts have only 1 or zero comments each, but there was a mighty 36 comments on Share when they were discussing the proposal by Moller Architects for the Elliot St tower – a residential tower as tall as the Sky Tower. That got a lot of comments, as you may imagine…

starkive
9 - 06 - 09

Hail to the Fish.

Can I add to the plaudits an observation that the Eyesite is one of the few architecturally inclined ones I visit that actually looks as though somebody designed it, rather than unpacked it and had trouble with the allen key?

Jan
9 - 06 - 09

Congratulations! EOTF is always interesting and informative. Sometimes however, it can be wrong:

“The only place for a Hilton in Wellington is somewhere along the waterfront.”

No. The waterfront should be for the people of Wellington; not for some junketing freeloaders to appropriate wholesale. Not everything in life is about making money. If the people of Wellington WANT a Hilton (and I believe that it should be the subject of a referendum), then it should be designed and constructed within the confines of the existing architecture – preferably somewhere up on The Terrace.

Peace
Jan

Maximus
10 - 06 - 09

Aaaah, Jan, just like a true fish you’ve taken the bait and bitten the hook. I was saying that about Hiltons – more in line of defense against spam and dim-witted blonde heiresses than a pro statement for a hotel brand – but I take your point.

The outer T was certainly the wrong place for a hotel for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the appropriation of the public’s waterfront. There are actually other places that they can, may be, and surely are looking at – some of which involve waterfront sites, or at least a view of. But if people wanted to stay on the Terrace, then they just need to stay at the James Cook. No need to build a Hilton at all.

Maximus
10 - 06 - 09

starkive – all thanks for the site’s looks go to Philip, who has a whole set of Allen keys, and a monkey wrench as well. I just have the keys to the ignition and a tankful of petrol to go….

speaking of which – isn’t it time for a mid-winter season of movies about fast cars and road trips? I’m getting cabin fever with this weather and i can’t afford to go away on holiday. Or – got any movies about fish?

60 MPa
10 - 06 - 09

Is the fish getting a bit crazy or are the mercury levels in the harbour peaking?

Maximus
10 - 06 - 09

60 – i’m not a bottom feeder, like the flounder. Free-swimming, dorsal fin firmly upright.

What are you working on these days now that the CC Ho has finished?

Honeywood
10 - 06 - 09

Rumblefish: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086216/ The Motorcycle Boy’s never coming back…

mobsta
10 - 06 - 09

huh?!?
a referendum?!?
a private company wanting to set up in Wellington should be the subject of a referendum?!?
that doesn’t even make sense…

Starkive
10 - 06 - 09

Fish footage?

I can recommend this:
http://data.filmarchive.org.nz/search/details_film.php?ref_no=F2167&result_no=5

elliot
11 - 06 - 09

Nice work, and have always enjoyed reading this blog. I guess its because I was born in wellington but live in Auckland and enjoy the cheeky AKL payouts. Keep it up.

Maximus
11 - 06 - 09

elliot, we’ve got nothing against Auckland, not even against Aucklanders. We can see that they need help…

Maximus
12 - 06 - 09

Rumblefish! What a fantastic line up – was Coppola good at spotting talent or what!
Matt Dillon … Rusty James
Mickey Rourke … The Motorcycle Boy
Diane Lane … Patty
Dennis Hopper … Father
Diana Scarwid … Cassandra
Vincent Spano … Steve
Nicolas Cage … Smokey
Chris Penn … B.J. Jackson (as Christopher Penn)
Laurence Fishburne … Midget (as Larry Fishburne)

Larry Fishburne, now there’s a name to treasure…
and Rangi’s Catch. I could live with that.
Or the Fisher King – that was a good tale.
Little Fish – an Aussie production
Big Fish – apparently Tim Burton’s best work
Fish Tank – sounds cruel to me
and now, the latest: the End of the Line

See – everyone likes to fish. In retrospect, what a well-considered name this blog has. I swear we didn’t think of these connotations at the time…. We could have a whole season at the Film Archive or something… Architecture and Fish.

Guy
12 - 06 - 09

If I could stop your brief fish-brained rant just there for a minute, I think you’ll find that there is another well-respected architecture and design website in town – the Architectural Centre has a website ( http://www.architecture.org.nz ) where many a fine design conversation goes on as well too you know… you’re always welcome to stop off over there as well for a chat.

We’re, perhaps, not quite as rude as you are.

But then, that’s not entirely a bad thing.

Maximus
12 - 06 - 09

Ouch. Fish-brained – that hurt.

Actually, I do go there, reasonably regularly, and am impressed by the quality and quantity of material you guys (no pun intended) cover. Politics, Rodney Hide, Videos of the Week – you’ve got it all going on there.

But you’re just missing a certain Fishy something….

60 MPa
12 - 06 - 09

I’m working on the gestation of that giant egg in the Supreme Court at the moment. The spiral staircase towards the Ballance St side is due to be craned in next week (note “due”- this is Mainzeal) in three sections that will be corkscrewed down to fit. Could be interesting.

A lot of dolleros for a few judges

m-d
15 - 06 - 09

60 MPa – you’re laying that egg – that’s gotta hurt…

Jan
17 - 06 - 09

Hi mobsta,

Well, perhaps it doesn’t make sense to you, but to me anything that involves a private company wanting to inflict their wish for making money on one of the best harbours I know deserves to be placed before the population who will have to live with the consequences.

Cheers

Jan

Deepred
17 - 06 - 09

Personally I think if the Supreme Court egg looked more upright, it would have made a bolder statement. Kind of like a more organic equivalent of the US Capitol or San Fran City Hall.

Maximus
17 - 06 - 09

but Jan – there are already a number of buildings along the water’s edge, and the process that has been established there seems to be working well, does it not? The WCC have contracted WWL to run the waterfront, and decisions are made by WWL and vetted by TAG on behalf of the population. Its all part of the democratic process.

We’re having a referendum at present re smacking, and it seems the only thing everyone can agree on re that subject is that the wrong question is being asked, and how badly it is written. A referendum question could be written:
“Do you want a Hilton Hotel building for rich tourists constructed on the sunny part of the Outer Tee Quay in Wellington?”

which would get a different response to :
“Should the Council save $40million of rate-payers money by allowing a lease for a public facility to refinance the decaying waterfront piles, and help create a lovely ambience for late afternoon drinking while they’re at it?”

OK, badly worded questions i know, (mad eup on the spur of the moment) and both are equally loaded, but I reckon they’d get massively different responses.