Urban protest has a long history in New Zealand and especially in Wellington, being the capital and all that. I’ve been on a few myself over the years, and the point of them is to make a point, hopefully change someone’s point of view, and then go home for tea and see if you can spot yourself on the telly.
The march for Climate Change a couple of years ago was a good one – masses of people, lots of chanting funny slogans, the ability to experience Lambton Quay from the centre, instead of the sidewalk, and a great sense of camaraderie. No one realistically expected that someone would pop out from Parliament, say “You’re right, let’s do that” and that the whole thing would be resolved within the hour. A good time was had by all, except for a few disgruntled drivers who had an hour’s delay getting into town that afternoon. No one was hurt, nothing was changed, but the point was made.
I didn’t go on the Destiny Church march to Parliament a few years ago, and I can’t even remember what they were marching against, except that they were Very Serious and all had matching black T-shirts and thought that Brian Tamaki was a good thing. We will have to disagree on that – he’s just a bog-standard religious fraudster and a fascist and deserves to be locked up for stealing money from gullible idiots. Was it a protest against Gay Rights, or Gay Marriage, or just Against All Homosexuals and Jews like so many dubious dickheads before him? Supposedly, it was called Enough is Enough, which might have usefully been a march against beating up your wife, but instead I think was about Enough of this liberalisation of values towards gay rights.
But at the end of the day, they went home in time for tea and watched themselves on the telly.
The Springbok marches of 1981 were a bit different and are fading into memory now, but that really split the country in two, with all the rugby-playing farm boys on one side and all the thinking, intellectual townies on the other side, and the police as a bloody force to be recognised in between. The Battle of Molesworth Street was indeed a bloody mark on NZ’s history book – I wasn’t there, but I don’t think that Red Squad would have let the HART protestors get on the grounds of Parliament, let alone camp there and destroy the gardens for a week. I was up in Auckland getting my helmet battoned at the protests up there – nothing quite like have your head bashed with a Modanock PR-24 to instil a life-long respect for the police and their abilities to whack you with impunity!
I personally learned to march in step, arms locked, and we practiced our quick forward, quick reverse, and quick left turn manoeuvres for a few hours before Biko took a bite out of Red Squad. I had the dubious privilege of getting punched in the head by a nameless Springbok who almost broke my jaw – then we all went home in time for tea and watched the whole thing again on the telly, with my head still numb. And of course, with the benefit of time, we can bask in the reflected glory of having helped destroy apartheid and brought down an entire regime of fascist government – truly fascist government. And indirectly, the joy of Nelson Mandela meeting the Spice Girls.
But this pack of idiots partying down at parliament this week seem to be having it easy. Not a single one of them has had a baton whack them on their head as yet, despite immense provocation to the police. There’s nothing quite like watching from the third row of a march, as the police batons rain down on the helmeted heads in front of you and you can see the splinters of fibreglass go flying and everyone up front is screaming to go into reverse, while the rear are still screaming to go forward…. Sorts your priorities out pretty quick that way.
I’m wanting to free up for these conspiracy-theory wackos the joys of experiencing true police brutality first hand and having their head battoned, or perhaps having water-canons deployed instead of just Parliament sprinklers. I watched their protest online for a while in the weekend and even I had to leave due to the primary-school recording (on a recorder) of “My Heart Must Go On” – truly horrible.
They’re dedicated, I’ll give them that, but nothing more. They’re just truly deranged and rather than calling them tragically mis-guided by far-right conspiracy theorists, I’ll just call them as they truly are: They’re stupid. Plain and simple, is the description – plumb dumb and stupid. I’m still laughing over the hysterical nutty woman who has left her husband because he got vaccinated, and she is convinced he is going to die as a result – a woman too dumb to have passed 3rd form science.
I have a couple of former friends in there, protesting, as thick as a plank of wood. Proudly unvaxxed, proudly proclaiming their conspiracy nuttiness, calling Jacinda a fascist etc. That idiot who wanted to arrest Andrew Little and charge him with murder, who in reality is just completely deranged and off his meds. The many Maori / Brian Tamaki supporters who are adamant they want their chance to catch Covid or to ride their Harley and do burnouts on Parliament grounds – I’ve no time for you.
Go Home, the lot of you. There’s a pandemic spreading rapidly, and you’re not helping anyone.
Post-script – This woman sums up what I am feeling, and puts it into words beautifully and rather eloquently:
One good outcome so far – NZ’s most famous / stupid Nazi has been arrested en route to Wellington. This guy is a menace and totally unrepentant. Perhaps he should be deported to a country which is more in favour of fascism?
One good outcome – the Council has finally admitted that ticketing cars doesn’t get them moved. I’m looking forward to that policy being rolled out more generally.
Never thought that I would say this – but, bring back Crusher Collins! It wouldn’t create any friends, but i think they are past that stage by now anyway. Just put all their cars in a compactor. You’d only have to do one or two and the rest will magically drive away…
The Wellington Bus-tower is probably free. And Centreport needs some clean fill.
Listening to various talking heads lately I was wondering if my sensibilities were completely off-base
Nat Radio’s politics commenters were talking about how the protesters had valid concerns and I was like- wait, what?
Everyone else I talk to thinks that the police have no plan and the govt reaction to this lawn party has been pathetic
My ideas run more along the lines of getting 5 fire trucks to hook into the mains and keep the tent city deluged from above
Get a Franna crane and a bunch of flatbed trucks under moving police protection, sling up each vehicle, stick it on the flatbed and truck it out to a holding field in Trentham Army camp. (Give em a week to drive it away or crush it for steel)
Then turn the water off for 1 minute, tell these delusional Facebook influenced retards to disperse and start driving them off with water cannon
Oh and do the whole thing at 4 in the morning
When all is done Police could patrol Parliament for the next month with flying squad backup for any more of these fucksticks that come back and remove them
These people cannot be reasoned with, reality does not intersect with their world – I know several people who are unvaxxed and I don’t argue with them for the same reason that I don’t argue with
Climate change deniers
or anyone wearing Crocs
Out of all of this rigmarole the only person other than local residents that I feel sorry for is the poor groundskeepers who will have to clean it all up cos as sure as catshit stinks, not a one of these unemployed space cadets will front one red cent to recompense the rest of us taxpayers for their little holiday in the sun
I wouldn’t care if they wanted to be stupid but why do I; why do we have to pay for it?
This government is pathetic
Thank you Nemo, I feel better now
Why hold back? Why so nice and gentle 60 ? Personally I’ve been feeling that we have a bunch of tanks or LAVs that are sitting around doing nothing, and the Army drivers need to practice their car-causing skills. Crush them on site and ask questions later…
…but then I think again about how the Chinese Army took down the protestors in Tiananmen Square back in 1989, and how well that has turned out since then… not such good PR after all, hence China’s continued struggle to pretend it never happened. I think the best thing is to starve them of the oxygen of publicity. Stop the bloody media coverage. They’re all like a bunch of crazy old cat ladies – jut pay them no attention, and eventually they will go away – or, more likely, catch Covid off each other and have to be carted away.
They have been using a flatbed with a Hi-ab arm for towing (lifting) cars in the UK for years-
Drive up beside the car you are towing run straps from the wheels and lift, no need to enter the car to release the had brake….
can’t see why they don’t do it here more
Although apparently their is case law that prevents a vehicle being towed when occupied ( or in your procession) – So I suspect this might be a problem
Can my car be towed even if I’ve come back to my car?
Jamieson’s Tow & Salvage Ltd v Murray  2 NZLR 144 (HC)
The tow-truck operator can’t tow your car if it’s in your possession and control at the time. So, if you arrive on the scene as they’re preparing to tow your vehicle, and you’re able to get into it, they can’t tow you.
I saw one of those flatbed Hi-ab trucks pick up a Rolls Royce once in London – car was so heavy it just about broke the machine trying to lift it up, and it took up the entire width of the truck when it was on – and the crowd standing nearby who had been obstructed by both the car, and its removal, burst out into wild cheering. Not a single sympathy was given…
Here though, its going to be difficult, if not impossible. The hippies will simply fill the cars with babies, and lock the doors, and that will be the end of it. Seriously – there are only two ways out of this. Either sensible decisions based on reasoning with the protestors – or violence. There is no middle ground. And seeing as the protestors are devoid of common sense, there is only one option….
Tell us how you really feel 60! =)
Be careful what you wish for, and the precedents you might be setting.
Agreed, but somehow I get really fed up when people start screaming “Police Brutality” when they honestly haven’t got the faintest clue as to what that might really be like. Ask the people in the front line in the 1981 riots about their experiences of getting bashed with a truncheon – repeatedly – and the blood that was spilt.
Not that we ever want to get there. That was unpleasant and the scars have been felt for years. But at least that was a simple political argument – you didn’t need to be a nutter back then. The current rent-a-mob of retards having a party down there are, in my option, doing nothing to help. Time for them to move on, or, reluctantly, be moved. I’m not as patient as Jacinda.
Exactly. People protesting about freedoms and being oppressed, don’t know the meaning of the word.
How about they have a word to people from Chile, Romania, Syria – or more recently (again) – Afghanistan.
There is another precedent being set also
These people can park anywhere without consequence
Camp anywhere without consequence
Do pretty much what they like without consequence
The precedent being set is that the state will allow these delusional carrotspankers free reign to do whatever they want without any consequences
I think the precedent being set by the inaction of the state is ill-advised and will lead to more of these eedjits trying it on in Chch, Picton and other places
Meanwhile those of us with jobs pay taxes and get parking tickets
I have a strong preference for a world where people are accountable for their actions
I fully understand that I may be to the right of Ghengis Khan compared to most denizens of this excellent site but I have this outdated belief that people who break the law should face the consequences of their actions
I honestly don’t understand why they are allowed to have foodtrucks feeding them onsite
I had a fleeting thought that I might take a Saturday and go down in a clown costume with a pink wig and a sign saying
“Space Nazis from Venus are using the Jewish death laser to magnetise the Gates Vaccine”
but I suspect that proper spelling would affect my ability to blend in
Also, paraphrasing Mas Ayoub – Don’t go to stupid places at stupid times with stupid people
Encouraging this stupidity is making us collectively dumber as a nation
Do we want to foster mediocrity so that we end up thinking that it would be good to be like Belgium?
Or live in Whitby?
Won’t somebody think about how a nation of sub-par intellects would build the ugliest buildings imaginable?
Picture it – spray plaster houses with about 9 different roof angles tumbling down hillsides, shops with all the charm of a disused Home Depot in Tawa, Offices of bland mirrorglass and US fast food franchises on every block
Well you might shudder but the risk is very real
We are encouraging idiots and it will not end well…
Blistering barnacles! What’s wrong with Belgium?
I have very limited enthusiasm for seeing the army roll down Molesworth Street to “maintain order”.
I suspect that the army also have very little enthusiasm for such a move. THat’s the difference between us and Burma / China / Russia / name your other totalitarian police state here. (America? let’s not go there). Apart from the original NZ film “Sleeping Dogs” back in the 80s? 70s?? where the Army was brought in to retain order and slaughter civilians, I don’t think that NZ has had a case of civil unrest where the army was brought in, since, ooooh, the 1951 Waterfront Strike? Am I right?
Our army boys and girls mostly want to go and fight overseas I think, to bring democracy and justice to bewildered 3rd world countries that have lost their way and need a guiding hand and some new bridges… oh dear. When you put it like that, we’re exactly like that…!
Except it wouldn’t be to “maintain order”, as order isn’t currently there to be maintained. It would be to “remove law-breaking”. We only have a society as we all generally live in general compliance with laws. That’s why we have laws.
When you see some unmasked simpleton at the New World breathing all over someone who lives in a wheelchair, you realise how selfish and uncaring they are. And when you see toddlers and school-age children there, you realise how bad they are at being parents.
So fuck them. If the army is needed to return some roads and a reserve to all the people, great.
Look on the bright side. If it really kicks off, it’ll give this blog a chance to return to part of its raison d’etre… major urban regeneration projects.
I hear that the great unwashed are being funded by a Wellington businessman – that explains the enforcers, kitchens and portaloos
Does anyone have a name?
Not Glenn Inwood, the other one
The NZ Herald is reporting that Marty Verry, head of Red Stag timber, has outed himself as a funder of the protestors. Pity that. I thought he had more sense than that.
No idea, sorry. But there are certainly many “businessmen” who are strongly in support of removing of all mandates, so they can go back to making money again. Businesses certainly are hurting.
Speaking of “businessmen”, I see Terry Serepisos is back in town. Trying to raise some money by selling off the Century City Hotel. No doubt, it’ll all end in tears again….
Didn’t he already forfeit it after his bankruptcy?
Nothing is ever so simple as that. I think he has somehow managed to get it back, and is now trying to sell it off, piece by piece. There’s no keeping Terry down !
Andrea Vance in Stuff has put this very well :
“The Wellington protesters are creating mayhem for a pointless demand. Most reasonable people accept mandates have an end-point. It is impossible to give a calendar date, but they were never forever. It’s simply that we aren’t yet out of the Covid woods. The protest shares all of Trump’s worst characteristics: childish behaviour, wild lies, insult-spewing, ignorance, extravagant promises and unreasonable demands. There is a disrespect for elite norms and predilection for conspiracy theories. Trumpism was “what the president believes on any particular moment on any particular day about any particular subject”, Ron Christie, a Republican analyst and former White House staffer, once said.”
You know what to do, people
Link goes to the Change.org petition telling the drongos to go home
Done it earlier today.
Still can’t believe the cops haven’t done anything. It’ll be wet bus ticket manna from slapped wrist heaven at the conclusion, with none of them paying- or apologising – for the damage they’ve caused, let alone the interruption and stress they’ve caused local businesses, residents and students.
Couldn’t agree more….we have signed too.