Comments on: whitesnake http://eyeofthefish.org/whitesnake/ A wide-angle view of architecture, urban design and life in Wellington Mon, 06 Feb 2012 23:14:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: wharfie http://eyeofthefish.org/whitesnake/#comment-8823 wharfie Sat, 06 Jun 2009 00:22:16 +0000 http://eyeofthefish.org/?p=752#comment-8823 mobsta: apparently the north and south facades are patterned like that to mimic the effect of a check pattern wrapped around a cylinder. So that as the white panels get closer together, they supposedly look like the surface is curving round into the distance. not sure it works though mobsta:
apparently the north and south facades are patterned like that to mimic the effect of a check pattern wrapped around a cylinder. So that as the white panels get closer together, they supposedly look like the surface is curving round into the distance.

not sure it works though

]]> By: Maximus http://eyeofthefish.org/whitesnake/#comment-8821 Maximus Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:38:27 +0000 http://eyeofthefish.org/?p=752#comment-8821 dr who - "try looking at the box from the lookout halfway up the wadestown hill. not only does it block out the entire inner harbour view but after about 2 seconds the facade pattern causes excruciating eye strain. the perfect outcome for an ugly building." it's a sensory effect used by the daleks to reduce visual stimulant input in timelords such as yourself, due to the diurnal beating of your twin hearts. Mere mortals (and fish) do not suffer from this hallucinatory effect.... dr who – “try looking at the box from the lookout halfway up the wadestown hill. not only does it block out the entire inner harbour view but after about 2 seconds the facade pattern causes excruciating eye strain. the perfect outcome for an ugly building.”

it’s a sensory effect used by the daleks to reduce visual stimulant input in timelords such as yourself, due to the diurnal beating of your twin hearts. Mere mortals (and fish) do not suffer from this hallucinatory effect….

]]> By: wharfie http://eyeofthefish.org/whitesnake/#comment-8804 wharfie Thu, 04 Jun 2009 07:18:55 +0000 http://eyeofthefish.org/?p=752#comment-8804 I'm not surprised that there are some differences between the landscaping that was done at CentrePort and that completed at Kumutoto or further round the waterfront. I think that Wraight and her team did the landscaping at CentrePort, as well as at Waitangi Park. Athfields did the landscaping around the Taranaki Wharf, and then a combined Studio Pacific and Ishtmus team did the landscaping at Kumutoto. So there are bound to be a few different designs along the way. Not sure who is doing the landscaping alongside the BNZ though. Perhaps the Council are doing all the tree planting? I’m not surprised that there are some differences between the landscaping that was done at CentrePort and that completed at Kumutoto or further round the waterfront. I think that Wraight and her team did the landscaping at CentrePort, as well as at Waitangi Park. Athfields did the landscaping around the Taranaki Wharf, and then a combined Studio Pacific and Ishtmus team did the landscaping at Kumutoto. So there are bound to be a few different designs along the way. Not sure who is doing the landscaping alongside the BNZ though.

Perhaps the Council are doing all the tree planting?

]]> By: Honeywood http://eyeofthefish.org/whitesnake/#comment-8802 Honeywood Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:20:56 +0000 http://eyeofthefish.org/?p=752#comment-8802 The seats around the Meridian are particularly good (especially underlit at night) - great slabs with the front that rises up rather than the seat that overhangs. Nice. Apart from the strange northernmost ones that have grown a silly back... out of proportion and completely unnecessary. Perhaps they are on CentrePort land and beyond the scope of Wellington Waterfront? In the end we should assess public spaces as much by things we can touch (seats, walkways etc) as the thinks we look at. Which is why the user-unfriendly thumping great aggregate concrete Frank Kitts park must go. The seats around the Meridian are particularly good (especially underlit at night) – great slabs with the front that rises up rather than the seat that overhangs. Nice. Apart from the strange northernmost ones that have grown a silly back… out of proportion and completely unnecessary. Perhaps they are on CentrePort land and beyond the scope of Wellington Waterfront? In the end we should assess public spaces as much by things we can touch (seats, walkways etc) as the thinks we look at. Which is why the user-unfriendly thumping great aggregate concrete Frank Kitts park must go.

]]> By: mobsta http://eyeofthefish.org/whitesnake/#comment-8801 mobsta Thu, 04 Jun 2009 03:00:34 +0000 http://eyeofthefish.org/?p=752#comment-8801 As for the building itself - I think some facades are better than others. I like the east and west views. It was like Jasmax thought "we've got one big f**koff bulding here, we need to break it up a bit...." and by and large they have succeeded on those fronts. But the North and South are not so good. Too big. They have tried to create interest with the window / panel treatment, but it just ends up looking bitsy to me. The building does look well detailed though, and the atrium's look like great spaces. The view through at night is great. I look forward to walking through. As for the building itself – I think some facades are better than others.

I like the east and west views. It was like Jasmax thought “we’ve got one big f**koff bulding here, we need to break it up a bit….” and by and large they have succeeded on those fronts.

But the North and South are not so good. Too big. They have tried to create interest with the window / panel treatment, but it just ends up looking bitsy to me.

The building does look well detailed though, and the atrium’s look like great spaces.
The view through at night is great.
I look forward to walking through.

]]> By: mobsta http://eyeofthefish.org/whitesnake/#comment-8800 mobsta Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:55:58 +0000 http://eyeofthefish.org/?p=752#comment-8800 I'll tell you what I think is strange about the new building, (well, not the building itself, but it's environs....) are the really clumpy macrocarpa (?) seats? bollards? landscaping features? out the front. They just look really..... rural. If they wanted an idea of how to do a macrocarpa seat they didn't need to go far - the Athfield ones are great, as are the Isthmus ones around Meridian. Strange that there is no real consistency of style. Is it because the BNZ is on Centreport land and the rest is Wellington Waterfront? They need to talk to each other.... I’ll tell you what I think is strange about the new building, (well, not the building itself, but it’s environs….) are the really clumpy macrocarpa (?) seats? bollards? landscaping features? out the front.
They just look really….. rural.

If they wanted an idea of how to do a macrocarpa seat they didn’t need to go far – the Athfield ones are great, as are the Isthmus ones around Meridian.

Strange that there is no real consistency of style.
Is it because the BNZ is on Centreport land and the rest is Wellington Waterfront?
They need to talk to each other….

]]> By: SimonBK http://eyeofthefish.org/whitesnake/#comment-8790 SimonBK Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:34:31 +0000 http://eyeofthefish.org/?p=752#comment-8790 The most famous building of his is the OPT I think? And he designed some large vineyard buildings in Marlborough and I think a few Churches? He was on reccord for endorsing the Athfield proposal for the OPT i think

Haven’t had enough yet…..I Cant tear myself away from the Netherlands yet its summer over here……

]]> By: dr who http://eyeofthefish.org/whitesnake/#comment-8789 dr who Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:47:09 +0000 http://eyeofthefish.org/?p=752#comment-8789 try looking at the box from the lookout halfway up the wadestown hill. not only does it block out the entire inner harbour view but after about 2 seconds the facade pattern causes excruciating eye strain. the perfect outcome for an ugly building. try looking at the box from the lookout halfway up the wadestown hill. not only does it block out the entire inner harbour view but after about 2 seconds the facade pattern causes excruciating eye strain. the perfect outcome for an ugly building.

]]> By: Maximus http://eyeofthefish.org/whitesnake/#comment-8771 Maximus Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:54:06 +0000 http://eyeofthefish.org/?p=752#comment-8771 but anyway, that would been in the late 70s or early 80s. Say 30 years ago. Sort of proves my point that its a fairly uncommon thing, no? but anyway, that would been in the late 70s or early 80s. Say 30 years ago. Sort of proves my point that its a fairly uncommon thing, no?

]]> By: Maximus http://eyeofthefish.org/whitesnake/#comment-8770 Maximus Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:51:24 +0000 http://eyeofthefish.org/?p=752#comment-8770 Aaah, Simon, you're right of course. How could i forget? But then again, his moves on architecture were all administrative rather than creative - he authorised destruction and renewal of buildings rather than be known for their creative origins - in fact, I can't think of many buildings he may have designed at all. Enlighten me. So, on reflection, i think he may have been knighted for services to Mayordom than ArchiDom..... When are you coming back? Had enough yet? Aaah, Simon, you’re right of course. How could i forget? But then again, his moves on architecture were all administrative rather than creative – he authorised destruction and renewal of buildings rather than be known for their creative origins – in fact, I can’t think of many buildings he may have designed at all. Enlighten me.

So, on reflection, i think he may have been knighted for services to Mayordom than ArchiDom…..

When are you coming back? Had enough yet?

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