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		<title>By: Maximus</title>
		<link>http://eyeofthefish.org/state-of-play/#comment-9076</link>
		<dc:creator>Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but Jan - there are already a number of buildings along the water&#039;s edge, and the process that has been established there seems to be working well, does it not?  The WCC have contracted WWL to run the waterfront, and decisions are made by WWL and vetted by TAG on behalf of the population.  Its all part of the democratic process. 

We&#039;re having a referendum at present re smacking, and it seems the only thing everyone can agree on re that subject is that the wrong question is being asked, and how badly it is written. A referendum question could be written:
&quot;Do you want a Hilton Hotel building for rich tourists constructed on the sunny part of the Outer Tee Quay in Wellington?&quot;

which would get a different response to :
&quot;Should the Council save $40million of rate-payers money by allowing a lease for a public facility to refinance the decaying waterfront piles, and help create a lovely ambience for late afternoon drinking while they&#039;re at it?&quot;

OK, badly worded questions i know, (mad eup on the spur of the moment) and both are equally loaded, but I reckon they&#039;d get massively different responses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but Jan &#8211; there are already a number of buildings along the water&#8217;s edge, and the process that has been established there seems to be working well, does it not?  The WCC have contracted WWL to run the waterfront, and decisions are made by WWL and vetted by TAG on behalf of the population.  Its all part of the democratic process. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re having a referendum at present re smacking, and it seems the only thing everyone can agree on re that subject is that the wrong question is being asked, and how badly it is written. A referendum question could be written:<br />
&#8220;Do you want a Hilton Hotel building for rich tourists constructed on the sunny part of the Outer Tee Quay in Wellington?&#8221;</p>
<p>which would get a different response to :<br />
&#8220;Should the Council save $40million of rate-payers money by allowing a lease for a public facility to refinance the decaying waterfront piles, and help create a lovely ambience for late afternoon drinking while they&#8217;re at it?&#8221;</p>
<p>OK, badly worded questions i know, (mad eup on the spur of the moment) and both are equally loaded, but I reckon they&#8217;d get massively different responses.</p>
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		<title>By: Deepred</title>
		<link>http://eyeofthefish.org/state-of-play/#comment-9074</link>
		<dc:creator>Deepred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I think if the Supreme Court egg looked more upright, it would have made a bolder statement. Kind of like a more organic equivalent of the US Capitol or San Fran City Hall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I think if the Supreme Court egg looked more upright, it would have made a bolder statement. Kind of like a more organic equivalent of the US Capitol or San Fran City Hall.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
		<link>http://eyeofthefish.org/state-of-play/#comment-9070</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi mobsta,

Well, perhaps it doesn&#039;t make sense to you, but to me anything that involves a private company wanting to inflict their wish for making money on one of the best harbours  I know deserves to be placed before the population who will have to live with the consequences. 

Cheers

Jan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi mobsta,</p>
<p>Well, perhaps it doesn&#8217;t make sense to you, but to me anything that involves a private company wanting to inflict their wish for making money on one of the best harbours  I know deserves to be placed before the population who will have to live with the consequences. </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Jan</p>
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		<title>By: m-d</title>
		<link>http://eyeofthefish.org/state-of-play/#comment-9000</link>
		<dc:creator>m-d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>60 MPa - you&#039;re laying that egg - that&#039;s gotta hurt...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>60 MPa &#8211; you&#8217;re laying that egg &#8211; that&#8217;s gotta hurt&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 60 MPa</title>
		<link>http://eyeofthefish.org/state-of-play/#comment-8925</link>
		<dc:creator>60 MPa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m working on the gestation of that giant egg in the Supreme Court at the moment. The spiral staircase towards the Ballance St side is due to be craned in next week (note &quot;due&quot;- this is Mainzeal) in three sections that will be corkscrewed down to fit. Could be interesting.

A lot of dolleros for a few judges</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m working on the gestation of that giant egg in the Supreme Court at the moment. The spiral staircase towards the Ballance St side is due to be craned in next week (note &#8220;due&#8221;- this is Mainzeal) in three sections that will be corkscrewed down to fit. Could be interesting.</p>
<p>A lot of dolleros for a few judges</p>
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		<title>By: Maximus</title>
		<link>http://eyeofthefish.org/state-of-play/#comment-8921</link>
		<dc:creator>Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch. Fish-brained - that hurt.  

Actually, I do go there, reasonably regularly, and am impressed by the quality and quantity of material you guys (no pun intended) cover. Politics, Rodney Hide, Videos of the Week - you&#039;ve got it all going on there. 

But you&#039;re just missing a certain Fishy something....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch. Fish-brained &#8211; that hurt.  </p>
<p>Actually, I do go there, reasonably regularly, and am impressed by the quality and quantity of material you guys (no pun intended) cover. Politics, Rodney Hide, Videos of the Week &#8211; you&#8217;ve got it all going on there. </p>
<p>But you&#8217;re just missing a certain Fishy something&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
		<link>http://eyeofthefish.org/state-of-play/#comment-8920</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I could stop your brief fish-brained rant just there for a minute, I think you&#039;ll find that there is another well-respected architecture and design website in town - the Architectural Centre has a website  ( www.architecture.org.nz )  where many a fine design conversation goes on as well too you know...   you&#039;re always welcome to stop off over there as well for a chat. 

We&#039;re, perhaps, not quite as rude as you are. 

But then, that&#039;s not entirely a bad thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I could stop your brief fish-brained rant just there for a minute, I think you&#8217;ll find that there is another well-respected architecture and design website in town &#8211; the Architectural Centre has a website  ( <a href="http://www.architecture.org.nz" rel="nofollow">http://www.architecture.org.nz</a> )  where many a fine design conversation goes on as well too you know&#8230;   you&#8217;re always welcome to stop off over there as well for a chat. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re, perhaps, not quite as rude as you are. </p>
<p>But then, that&#8217;s not entirely a bad thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Maximus</title>
		<link>http://eyeofthefish.org/state-of-play/#comment-8919</link>
		<dc:creator>Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rumblefish! What a fantastic line up - was Coppola good at spotting talent or what! 
Matt Dillon	 ...	Rusty James
Mickey Rourke	 ...	The Motorcycle Boy
Diane Lane	 ...	Patty
Dennis Hopper	 ...	Father
Diana Scarwid	 ...	Cassandra
Vincent Spano	 ...	Steve
Nicolas Cage	 ...	Smokey
Chris Penn	 ...	B.J. Jackson (as Christopher Penn)
Laurence Fishburne	 ...	Midget (as Larry Fishburne)

Larry Fishburne, now there&#039;s a name to treasure...  
and Rangi&#039;s Catch.     I could live with that.  
Or the Fisher King - that was a good tale.
Little Fish - an Aussie production
Big Fish - apparently Tim Burton&#039;s best work
Fish Tank - sounds cruel to me
and now, the latest: the End of the Line

See - everyone likes to fish. In retrospect, what a well-considered name this blog has. I swear we didn&#039;t think of these connotations at the time....   We could have a whole season at the Film Archive or something...  Architecture and Fish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rumblefish! What a fantastic line up &#8211; was Coppola good at spotting talent or what!<br />
Matt Dillon	 &#8230;	Rusty James<br />
Mickey Rourke	 &#8230;	The Motorcycle Boy<br />
Diane Lane	 &#8230;	Patty<br />
Dennis Hopper	 &#8230;	Father<br />
Diana Scarwid	 &#8230;	Cassandra<br />
Vincent Spano	 &#8230;	Steve<br />
Nicolas Cage	 &#8230;	Smokey<br />
Chris Penn	 &#8230;	B.J. Jackson (as Christopher Penn)<br />
Laurence Fishburne	 &#8230;	Midget (as Larry Fishburne)</p>
<p>Larry Fishburne, now there&#8217;s a name to treasure&#8230;<br />
and Rangi&#8217;s Catch.     I could live with that.<br />
Or the Fisher King &#8211; that was a good tale.<br />
Little Fish &#8211; an Aussie production<br />
Big Fish &#8211; apparently Tim Burton&#8217;s best work<br />
Fish Tank &#8211; sounds cruel to me<br />
and now, the latest: the End of the Line</p>
<p>See &#8211; everyone likes to fish. In retrospect, what a well-considered name this blog has. I swear we didn&#8217;t think of these connotations at the time&#8230;.   We could have a whole season at the Film Archive or something&#8230;  Architecture and Fish.</p>
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		<title>By: Maximus</title>
		<link>http://eyeofthefish.org/state-of-play/#comment-8918</link>
		<dc:creator>Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>elliot, we&#039;ve got nothing against Auckland, not even against Aucklanders.  We can see that they need help...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>elliot, we&#8217;ve got nothing against Auckland, not even against Aucklanders.  We can see that they need help&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: elliot</title>
		<link>http://eyeofthefish.org/state-of-play/#comment-8912</link>
		<dc:creator>elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work,  and have always enjoyed reading this blog.  I guess its because I was born in wellington but live in Auckland and enjoy the cheeky AKL payouts. Keep it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work,  and have always enjoyed reading this blog.  I guess its because I was born in wellington but live in Auckland and enjoy the cheeky AKL payouts. Keep it up.</p>
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